tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918995924244969903.post3593156835797111314..comments2024-03-25T08:41:57.698+13:00Comments on Kiwi Hellenist: Who preserved Greek literature? (Part 2)Peter Gainsfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17448862214081111386noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918995924244969903.post-46987288418878544732022-07-22T11:10:47.197+12:002022-07-22T11:10:47.197+12:00Yes, and Berlin is a place in Germany. That doesn&...Yes, and Berlin is a place in Germany. That doesn't mean the Pergamon altar was produced in Germany.Peter Gainsfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17448862214081111386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918995924244969903.post-88122053665068254402022-07-22T10:24:10.611+12:002022-07-22T10:24:10.611+12:00Kells is a town in IrelandKells is a town in IrelandAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918995924244969903.post-49916508372075436352022-07-22T10:03:52.267+12:002022-07-22T10:03:52.267+12:00Truly enlightening post.
Thank you. Truly enlightening post. <br />Thank you. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918995924244969903.post-44199269240813710882021-08-07T08:51:32.374+12:002021-08-07T08:51:32.374+12:00Thank you for both Parts of this article. I was wo...Thank you for both Parts of this article. I was wondering what I was missing when I read with partial information in, e.g. Wikipedia, that told me when and to where, say, Venetus A was imported (to Italy), but not FROM where / where it was (likely to have been) originally written. Just a blank! Your reference to Papadopoulos-Kerameus and Scott's reminder of Kadellis' survey are especiallyAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16172409143637849407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918995924244969903.post-4833619683301779652020-06-18T17:13:20.600+12:002020-06-18T17:13:20.600+12:00They're not alone. It's just the textbook ...They're not alone. It's just the textbook that I happened to have used most recently. The JACT Reading Latin uses Plautus for its first several chapters, and while I don't remember it clearly I'm sure there are Cunning Slaves running around there. Reading Greek, the Cambridge Latin Course, and Disce! also strike me as casting slavery as basically akin to being lower middle class. Peter Gainsfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17448862214081111386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918995924244969903.post-22629278906669352302020-06-13T15:59:44.154+12:002020-06-13T15:59:44.154+12:00You really have to wonder how Balme and Lawall man...You really have to wonder how Balme and Lawall managed to miss all the jokes in Aristophanes's comedies about slaves being beaten and abused. There's a whole scene in <i>The Frogs</i> in which Xanthias and Dionysos switch places and are both beaten. That scene only makes sense when you realize that the people who were in the audience when the play was first performed were at least Spencer McDanielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14784602880680601679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918995924244969903.post-82051418855850624462020-06-13T11:53:34.481+12:002020-06-13T11:53:34.481+12:00You're absolutely right. When ancient copies d...You're absolutely right. When ancient copies do survive, they're extremely important. There just aren't many authors as blessed as these ones! Ancient copies are also v important for the text of Homer -- though they're much, much more fragmentary, often just a couple of lines. Though there's also a papyrus at the Rylands Library in Manchester -- 4th century IIRC -- which has Peter Gainsfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17448862214081111386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918995924244969903.post-787614320188828912020-06-13T11:47:06.381+12:002020-06-13T11:47:06.381+12:00Oh I am so annoyed at myself for forgetting he wro...Oh I am so annoyed at myself for forgetting he wrote that article. I wish I had looked for it before finalising this write-up. I'll defintely grant that Kaldellis is much better informed than I am.<br /><br />His article is even accessible on the open web <a href="https://www.academia.edu/14481812/Peter Gainsfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17448862214081111386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918995924244969903.post-21890133932837037182020-06-13T07:03:28.929+12:002020-06-13T07:03:28.929+12:00The text of Vergil is unique, in that it’s based o...The text of Vergil is unique, in that it’s based on three codex books surviving from late antiquity and fragments of three others, though there is increasing recognition that some of the large number of medieval manuscripts from the 9th century onwards preserve valuable readings from sources outside the traditions of the ancient manuscripts. Ancient manuscripts of Terence have also survived.Bill Waldermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17181960603335723275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918995924244969903.post-59262018920764261682020-06-13T06:21:35.814+12:002020-06-13T06:21:35.814+12:00A good overview of the Byzantine contribution to t...A good overview of the Byzantine contribution to the preservation of ancient texts can be found in Anthony Kaldellis' survey in vol. 132 of the Journal of Hellenic Studies. Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16914985126761335721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918995924244969903.post-24933253082302883892020-06-13T01:23:46.505+12:002020-06-13T01:23:46.505+12:00I take it this is a complaint over suggesting that...I take it this is a complaint over suggesting that Iona is 'in' Britain? If so, I suppose a comparable objection might apply to Lindisfarne. Still, I'd accept the quibble.Peter Gainsfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17448862214081111386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918995924244969903.post-47596465897375747822020-06-13T00:50:44.578+12:002020-06-13T00:50:44.578+12:00The Book of Kells was produced in Britain? If the ...The Book of Kells was produced in Britain? If the rest of the article is as accurate as this, it should be taken 'grano salis'.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07995380355213078678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918995924244969903.post-38919618821219804142020-06-12T20:02:12.934+12:002020-06-12T20:02:12.934+12:00I can't give a thorough answer off the cuff, b...I can't give a thorough answer off the cuff, but as a sample ... <a href="http://kiwihellenist.blogspot.com/2020/02/epic-cycle.html" rel="nofollow">here's a piece from earlier this year</a> that talks about the loss of the Epic Cycle. Beyond that, take a look at some books on ancient libraries! Casson's one is pretty good. There are others too!Peter Gainsfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17448862214081111386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918995924244969903.post-64070283855465220672020-06-12T18:33:19.810+12:002020-06-12T18:33:19.810+12:00always love these posts! it's been a few years...always love these posts! it's been a few years since I last read Scribes and Scholars, but I recall it was Reynolds who points out that if your book was often read in schools, its chance of survival increased! Wells Hansenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05662397722171978076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918995924244969903.post-72620415896800794522020-06-12T18:00:57.684+12:002020-06-12T18:00:57.684+12:00Clear and informative as ever, thankyou. However, ...Clear and informative as ever, thankyou. However, I always get to wondering what we can know of loss in Hellenistic and Roman times of earlier material. It must have been quite considerable, I guess. Eric Gloverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06487174389661699017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918995924244969903.post-62500687509123429452020-06-12T17:32:18.396+12:002020-06-12T17:32:18.396+12:00An enlightening read!An enlightening read!Matthew Giakoumatoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16824300158577927945noreply@blogger.com